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Wednesday 17 January 2024

What is the Proto Greek and Proto Illyrian ancestry in Mycenaeans and possible Dorian samples?

I will add more to this post in the future... 

We can't be sure who the Proto Greeks were exactly but this seems possible.


The Cetina admix seems to correlate with the Cetina archeological infuences. Nestor's palace is outside of that border and has no Cetina admix, it only shows up at 2.8% later but it could be noise or obviously some mixing later.

Samples used:

Source:

0.Northern_Pelasgian_Aegean_Neolithic_Farmer_Marmara_N,0.1181049,0.1812478,0.0024244,-0.100484,0.0518483,-0.0468005,-0.0050917,-0.0071866,0.0366683,0.081182,0.0085293,0.0118038,-0.0232901,0.0009437,-0.0412654,-0.009155,0.0223267,0.0006696,0.0116241,-0.0095938,-0.0132444,0.0059706,-0.0044663,-0.0033969,-0.0055028

1.Southern_Pelasgian-GRC_Minoan_Lassithi,0.1192866,0.170609,-0.0181772,-0.093993,0.0295438,-0.0398256,-0.001316,-0.0034614,0.0103488,0.0598102,0.0029878,0.0153164,-0.0251238,-5.48e-05,-0.0374586,-0.0109518,0.0173934,-0.0012414,0.0088742,-0.0136316,-0.0133764,0.0083836,-0.0050776,-0.0010604,-0.0024428

2.Proto-Greek/Phrygian_Yamnaya_BGR,0.113823,0.123895,0.034318,0.040375,0.003693,0.012829,0.003055,0.001615,-0.02127,-0.014579,0.005846,0.003897,-0.014271,0.00867,0.011401,-0.013524,-0.005998,0.000253,-0.000628,-0.004752,0.004742,0.005441,-0.002588,-0.000482,0.001197

3.Proto-Illyrian_HRV_Cetina_BA,0.1280509,0.149283,0.0273884,-0.0012112,0.025197,-0.0042879,0.0015276,-0.0012115,0.0078999,0.0250348,-0.0021518,0.0101161,-0.0163155,-0.0103216,-0.0064639,-0.0071931,0.0035529,0.0014728,0.0015085,-0.0051589,-0.0044609,0.0009119,-0.0026342,0.0030878,-0.0082328

Targets:

Mycenaean_Palace_of_Nestor_BA_1418-1278,0.107373,0.1533447,-0.0051537,-0.0576017,0.019183,-0.0199873,-0.0008617,-0.0111533,0.004704,0.0369937,0.0028147,0.0105407,-0.0182853,0.005092,-0.012758,-0.0140103,0.001608,0.0029983,0.0100977,-0.0098797,-0.0014143,-0.002308,-0.0018073,0.0033737,0.0005187

Mycenaean_Palace_of_Nestor_BA_1200-1070,0.115246,0.1607075,-0.0058455,-0.0661342,0.0263895,-0.0229388,-0.0022912,-0.0026538,0.0080788,0.0437368,0.0036132,0.0069315,-0.0242318,-0.0010665,-0.0202222,-0.0097452,0.0065845,0.0015205,0.0109985,-0.0096295,-0.00496,0.004575,0.001171,0.0025305,-0.000898

Dorian?_Greek_Mygdalia_1500BC,0.12488,0.1558111,0.011583,-0.0391753,0.0273019,-0.017371,-0.0015779,-0.0037583,0.0108107,0.0356143,0.0060083,0.0076431,-0.0158854,-0.0012189,-0.0129321,-0.0096604,0.0075251,0.0002896,0.0078293,-0.0069854,-0.0075046,0.0024023,-0.0004047,0.011275,-0.004174 

Ionian?_Mycenaean_Attica_1450BC,0.1217907,0.171286,-0.0082967,-0.0624467,0.0254407,-0.027703,0.00752,-0.0073843,0.005045,0.0431897,0.0076863,0.0129383,-0.0164023,0.0023857,-0.024656,-0.0086183,0.0103873,-0.0004223,0.0026813,-0.0036687,-0.0139753,0.0108403,-0.0071483,-0.000683,-0.0001997

Illyrian_Albania_Cinamak_Anc,0.1239044,0.1531999,0.0288229,-0.0124586,0.0291481,-0.0053786,0.001175,0.0003956,-0.000292,0.0241073,0.0025981,0.0065729,-0.0183066,-0.0076479,-0.0091901,-0.0024623,0.0109894,0.0014116,0.0047407,-0.0086647,-0.005633,0.0017666,-0.0033629,0.006593,-0.0054743

Paeonian?_North_Macedonia_South_300bc,0.123498,0.1563915,0.0197985,-0.024225,0.029852,-0.013526,-0.0052875,-0.0064615,0.008897,0.0303425,0.0007305,0.0059945,-0.0118185,0.0056425,-0.0113325,-0.01664,-0.0086055,0.001457,0.005845,-0.016633,-0.0117295,0.0039565,0.0019105,0.005362,-0.001916

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