Answer: Yes, they did. The Roman era West Anatolians 2000 years ago had around 28-40% Mycenaean Greek ancestry.
1) On both tools the Roman era West Anatolians are a mix of 28-40% Mycenaean + South East Anatolian + North Levantine + West-Central Anatolian. The qpAdm rotation rejects any model without Mycenaean.
2) When running Fst/f2 the Roman era West Anatolians are closer genetically to Mycenaeans, South East Anatolians, North Levantines than Iron age West Anatolians because they were mainly a direct mix of those first 3. But this part could be faulty due to problematic samples, it still does not disprove 1) or 3).
3) When rotating we can rank P-values. The model with Mycenaean gets higher P-value than Thracian. Therefore Mycenaean/Greek is the most likely source.
For context:
Turkey_Archaic_SubGeometric = Iron age West Anatolian from Mugla
Turkey_EBA_Isparta = Bronze age West Anatolia
Turkey_Alalakh_MLBA = Bronze age North Levant/South East Anatolia
Turkey_IA_Batman = Iron age South East Turkey
If you have ideas of how to improve the models then post them in the comments. I will attempt to improve the models even more in the future.
qpAdm:
Only the model with Mycenaean + South East Anatolian/North Levantine is plausible.
This is a rotation:
right = c('Mbuti.DG', 'Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya', 'Russia_Karelia_HG', 'Serbia_IronGates_Mesolithic', 'Turkey_N', 'Iran_GanjDareh_N', 'Spain_IA', 'Greece_Minoan_Lassithi', 'Croatia_MLBA', 'Netherlands_EIA', 'Netherlands_MBA', 'Russia_IA_Ingria.SG', 'Latvia_BA', 'Turkey_EBA_II.SG', 'Israel_C', 'Armenia_EBA_KuraAraxes', 'Mongolia_North_N', 'Croatia_EIA', 'Albania_BA_IA', 'Russia_MLBA_Sintashta', 'Iran_C_SehGabi', 'Turkey_EBA_Isparta', 'Lebanon_MBA.SG', 'Turkey_Archaic_SubGeometric', 'Macedonia_Classical_Hellenistic', 'Bulgaria_EIA', 'Turkey_Alalakh_MLBA', 'Turkey_IA_Batman', 'Turkey_OldHittitePeriod.SG', 'Greece_BA_Mycenaean')
right = c('Mbuti.DG', 'Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya', 'Russia_Karelia_HG', 'Serbia_IronGates_Mesolithic', 'Turkey_N', 'Iran_GanjDareh_N', 'Spain_IA', 'Greece_Minoan_Lassithi', 'Croatia_MLBA', 'Netherlands_EIA', 'Netherlands_MBA', 'Russia_IA_Ingria.SG', 'Latvia_BA', 'Turkey_EBA_II.SG', 'Israel_C', 'Armenia_EBA_KuraAraxes', 'Mongolia_North_N', 'Croatia_EIA', 'Albania_BA_IA', 'Russia_MLBA_Sintashta', 'Iran_C_SehGabi', 'Turkey_EBA_Isparta', 'Lebanon_MBA.SG', 'Turkey_Archaic_SubGeometric', 'Macedonia_Classical_Hellenistic', 'Bulgaria_EIA', 'Turkey_Alalakh_MLBA', 'Turkey_SoutheastByzantine_Mardin')
right = c('Mbuti.DG', 'Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya', 'Russia_Karelia_HG', 'Serbia_IronGates_Mesolithic', 'Turkey_N', 'Iran_GanjDareh_N', 'Spain_IA', 'Greece_Minoan_Lassithi', 'Croatia_MLBA', 'Netherlands_EIA', 'Netherlands_MBA', 'Russia_IA_Ingria.SG', 'Latvia_BA', 'Turkey_EBA_II.SG', 'Israel_C', 'Armenia_EBA_KuraAraxes', 'Mongolia_North_N', 'Bulgaria_EIA', 'Croatia_EIA', 'Albania_BA_IA', 'Russia_MLBA_Sintashta', 'Iran_C_SehGabi', 'Turkey_EBA_Isparta', 'Lebanon_MBA.SG', 'Turkey_Archaic_SubGeometric', 'Turkey_OldHittitePeriod.SG', 'Greece_BA_Mycenaean', 'Turkey_Alalakh_MLBA')
Rotating between Mycenaean and samples from North Macedonia. Mycenaean is still the most likely source.
right = c('Mbuti.DG', 'Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya', 'Russia_Karelia_HG', 'Serbia_IronGates_Mesolithic', 'Turkey_N', 'Iran_GanjDareh_N', 'Spain_IA', 'Greece_Minoan_Lassithi', 'Croatia_MLBA', 'Netherlands_EIA', 'Netherlands_MBA', 'Russia_IA_Ingria.SG', 'Latvia_BA', 'Turkey_EBA_II.SG', 'Israel_C', 'Armenia_EBA_KuraAraxes', 'Mongolia_North_N', 'Croatia_EIA', 'Albania_BA_IA', 'Russia_MLBA_Sintashta', 'Iran_C_SehGabi', 'Turkey_EBA_Isparta', 'Lebanon_MBA.SG', 'Turkey_Archaic_SubGeometric', 'Bulgaria_EIA', 'Macedonia_Classical_Hellenistic', 'Greece_BA_Mycenaean')
G25:
G25 models also show the exact same thing. Roman era West Anatolians and Iron age West Anatolians formed from different completely admixture events.
Even when not using an Armenian-Upper Mesopotamian like source to force West Anatolian to inflate, the minimum Mycenaean is still 28%.
right = c('Mbuti.DG', 'Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya', 'Russia_Karelia_HG', 'Serbia_IronGates_Mesolithic', 'Turkey_N', 'Iran_GanjDareh_N', 'Spain_IA', 'Greece_Minoan_Lassithi', 'Croatia_MLBA', 'Netherlands_EIA', 'Netherlands_MBA', 'Russia_IA_Ingria.SG', 'Latvia_BA', 'Turkey_EBA_II.SG', 'Israel_C', 'Armenia_EBA_KuraAraxes', 'Mongolia_North_N', 'Croatia_EIA', 'Albania_BA_IA', 'Russia_MLBA_Sintashta', 'Iran_C_SehGabi', 'Turkey_EBA_Isparta', 'Lebanon_MBA.SG', 'Turkey_Archaic_SubGeometric', 'Macedonia_Classical_Hellenistic', 'Bulgaria_EIA', 'Turkey_Alalakh_MLBA', 'Turkey_AssyrianColonyPeriod.SG', 'Turkey_OldHittitePeriod.SG')
Fst population differentiation (like genetic distance):
They are closer to Mycenaeans and South East Anatolians/North Levantines than Carians, probably because they have mostly direct admix from those 2 instead of Carians or something is wrong with the Carian samples which is a common problem for F2 and Fst. Even if the Fst results are problematic, the qpAdm models above shouldn't have a problem with this.
I will post F4 too another time.
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