For people wondering why Marathon on G25 appears more Levantine on Neolithic models:
Conclusion: The Roman Marathon sample is almost identical or even identical to Roman Mugla:
For people wondering why Marathon on G25 appears more Levantine on Neolithic models:
Short anwer, the DNA samples we currently have are pretty much Aegeans, mix of Greeks and West Anatolians. While archeology also says about both Aegeans and Italians of the time but Italians of that time cremated.
Long answer, to be continued, i will expand this post in the future.
Related post: Modelling the Roman era sample from Marathon Greece on qpAdm and G25
Study: A genetic history of the Balkans from Roman frontier to Slavic migrations
Post by Davidski about the study: https://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2024/01/romans-and-slavs-in-balkans-olalde-et.html
I used the reference/right populations as in that study but expanded upon them to decrease standard errors. If you have any criticism then tell me in the comments so i can improve the models.
The Balkan study didn't use a Balkan proxy for mainland Greeks even though they have a lot of Balkan Y-DNA from both sides of the Balkans, Arvanites/Albanians, Thracian etc, obviously in my models i have to take into account the Balkan admix. The models with South Slavic fit the best when rotating because they take into account the Balkan admx. They could have used a Balkan or South Slavic proxy if they added more right/reference populations + a lot of good quality Rome Imperial samples that are identical to Mugla West Anatolian samples to decrease the Standard Errors.The Aegean proxy in my analysis consist of samples from the Roman-era Mugla in West Anatolia, along with Imperial Rome samples that are identical to those from Mugla. Furthermore, the Marathon sample from 300 AD southern Greece is identical to those samples. It scores a total of 30-50% Mycenaean admix depending on the proxies used so Mugla samples might be an actual good representative of Roman era Southern Greeks until we get more samples.
More work will be be done on these models, i will update them in the future.
Not finished, will update.
They received the Greek ancestry indirectly from Italians in the Imperial Roman era. There was a significant Greek migration from the Aegean islands and West Anatolia into Italy during the Early Roman Imperial period.
The G25 admixture models below do not imply direct ancestry but they show at which ancient people modern Jews are genetically shifted to. Most of the mixing seems to have happened when Jews lived in Italy.
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Updated 7/12/2023
In this post, I will examine the genetic makeup of modern populations in comparison to the ancient Greeks, analyzing how their DNA differs and identifying any similarities that may exist.
We estimated FST of Bronze Age populations with present-day West Eurasians, finding that Mycenaeans are least differentiated from populations from Greece, Cyprus, Albania, and Italy (Fig. 2), part of a general pattern in which Bronze Age populations broadly resemble present-day inhabitants from the same region (Extended Data Fig. 7).
The Global25 admixture charts you see below illustrate the percentage mixtures needed to get the closest match to a modern target when comparing their DNA to ancient DNA samples. In simpler terms, they show how much mixing of different ancient DNA samples is required to match the genetic profile of present-day populations. This doesn't necessarily imply a direct descent from the exact population depicted; it could instead be from a population closely related or similar to the one shown.
Recent studies by Harvard utilized Autosomal DNA modeling techniques to analyze the genetic makeup of ancient populations, including the Cypriots, Mycenaeans, Minoans, and Levantines. However, the study did not include a analysis of modern populations. In order to make comparisons between ancient and modern populations, I personally used the same DNA modeling program to model modern populations with the DNA samples provided by Harvard.
Studies:
https://reich.hms.harvard.edu/sites/reich.hms.harvard.edu/files/inline-files/8_25_2022_Manuscript1_ChalcolithicBronzeAge.pdf
https://reich.hms.harvard.edu/sites/reich.hms.harvard.edu/files/inline-files/8_25_2022_Manuscript2_Neolithic.pdf
My models:
Neolithic Era ancestry